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shadowopal Assistant mutant-wrangler

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 207 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Okay. I spent the weekend watching the set and all I can say is....wow! What a great project. The filmwork is great. The angles are perfect. And the information is priceless to most. Being completely new to animatronics, I found the information to be fairly complete without being condescending. The organization of the information is fantastic. I've never worked on an animatronic. However, I assume that there are always many things going on at the same time. The flow of the presentation is well organized and goes at a good pace.
Now having said all this, there are a few suggestions for a follow up disc/video. One things that I felt was missing is a list of materials/tools used. I know you probably weren't keep track of all that. But, even a rough list/estimate would help us newbs out immensely. I find parts lists very handy when I'm shopping. that way if I can't find an exact match, I can ask a salesperson for an equivilent. This could be an insert for the dvd case even.
I wish that Gary had gone a little into the planning of the lips wire. I'm sure there was a lot of thinking that went into it. I'm also not aware of how to plan the lip wires, where the servo linkage wire should be placed and how the mechanics of lip wires work. But, otherwise, it's a good section.
Another video to consider, Gary, is how you chose your products. Why use Monster Makers/Smooth On over the others out there. Also, how you went about choosing your servos. How did you figure out the torque neccessary for each servo?
As you all can see the things I'm bringing up are small matters. The set is gold and will be watched ofter as I start my project. I'm not going to have hair on my project and will not have the articulation that Gary's does. But, one thing I wondered. Gary said that he had problems with punching the hair, the color of the silicone showed through the paint job where he punched the hair. If Gary had tinted the silicone to a grey before pouring the silicone, would this have been an issue still? _________________ -Sean Overton
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willettfx Master mutant-wrangler

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 603 Location: Ruston ,Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Thank You Sean,
| Quote: | | How did you figure out the torque neccessary for each servo? |
In the video I mentioned don’t sacrifice torque for cost.Basically I went with servo that did the movement and where it would not have any difficulties with the skin.Depending on what project your doing would depend on what servo/torque you use
| Quote: | | Why use Monster Makers/Smooth On over the others out there. |
I know Arnold from Monstermakers and Jason from SmoothOn,which these guys helped me so much on this project .I f you have any questions regarding there products you can shoot them an e-mail or pick up the phone and give them a call.They will answer any questions you may have.
I tried to go with less suppliers easier for newbs.
| Quote: | | one thing I wondered. Gary said that he had problems with punching the hair, the color of the silicone showed through the paint job where he punched the hair. If Gary had tinted the silicone to a grey before pouring the silicone, would this have been an issue still? |
In the video I used Monster Makers Foam rubber not silicone, My 1st foam run was tinted with a gray tint.This changed the gel time of the foam which rushed me.
| Quote: | | would this have been an issue still? | No,It would have work out for better.so this changed the punching I glued the hair which worked out great.
To keep cost down on the DvD set I had to edit down 93 hours of footage to 3 ½ hours so some footage had to be sacrificed.
Thanks Again Sean
Gary _________________ http://www.willettfx.com |
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shadowopal Assistant mutant-wrangler

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 207 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Thanks for those answers. I can tell you did a lot of editing. The results speak volumes. You did a great job. Thanks for your work on this set. I know I'll be making good use of it. Cheers. _________________ -Sean Overton
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willettfx Master mutant-wrangler

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 603 Location: Ruston ,Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Now with a Free bonus disk
My New Animatronic Eyes , It’s what I put on youtube ,It looks better on DVD.
 _________________ http://www.willettfx.com |
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RubberDudeFX Lab rat
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 49 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: A real treat! |
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I got my Christmas gift to myself on december 23th. This is a great DVD set with TONS of info for those who are new to animatronics, like myself. This is a generous DVD, a rare thing. It kicked my ass to stop waiting and start work on my animatronic mask project. This set will complement my old VHS tape of Michael Burnett's tape on how to make a basic mechanical mask. Now, I want to give it a try.
Thank you Gary for this endeavor. That is something to be very proud.
Now, question: I never used liquid plastic before. Is it possible to work this material in a similar manner as the fibreglass to make the underskull (brushing it in a silicone negative), or is it abolutely necessary to cast it in a closed pos/neg mold ? I noticed in your dvd that it took a lot of additionnal moldmaking work to build your underskull.
Again, congrats, and hoping to see more of the same in the future.
Eric |
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willettfx Master mutant-wrangler

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 603 Location: Ruston ,Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: A real treat! |
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| RubberDudeFX wrote: |
Now, question: I never used liquid plastic before. Is it possible to work this material in a similar manner as the fibreglass to make the underskull (brushing it in a silicone negative), or is it abolutely necessary to cast it in a closed pos/neg mold ? I noticed in your dvd that it took a lot of additionnal moldmaking work to build your underskull.
Eric |
Thank you so much Eric,
yes you can use fiberglass ,and you don't have to use a neg mold.The reason is I didnt use fiberglass .I didn't want the toxic fumes in my home,
You could use this from SmoothOn
http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1120_1165/index.html
Smooth-On's Shell Shock® FAST and Shell Shock® SLOW are thixotropic plastics that self -thicken when mixed and can be brushed onto a variety of surfaces or into rubber molds.
Thanks again
gary _________________ http://www.willettfx.com |
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RubberDudeFX Lab rat
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 49 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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I think I'll go with the Shell Shock. I don't like the idea of using fiberglass because I don't have a workspace well ventilated enough for these too strong fumes.
Thanks for the info, Gary.
Eric |
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KitAnimboy Lab rat
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Surrey, England
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Fiberglass outside with the wind on your back or use carbon or kevlar matt with epoxy, less noxious. Also the styrene fumes from polyester resin are heavier than air so sink, if you leave the garage door open a tad they should drop...
Chris _________________ Got baggage, but still care! |
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grundy2k Acolyte
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 153
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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| also, maybe have a look into aqua-resin or forton MG which is a non toxic alternative as it's water based, basically meaning you can work indoors if your space isn't well ventilated (though should always at least have a window open) and it's extremely strong. look around the lab for more info or maybe get intouch with mouldlife/smooth-on etc and find out their alternatives... |
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FCFX Lab rat

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 18 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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I finally ordered a set of your DVDs and I'm kicking myself that I hadn't done it sooner. They are amazing! The information contained in them is invaluable. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this all together and sharing with the rest of us. If anyone is interested do yourself a favor and order a set - you won't be dissappointed! _________________ Frank
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Ankh Acolyte

Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 135 Location: Orlando, FL
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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Ordered my set back on Friday (the 26th). Can't wait to get this. Man, I'm stoked.
Thanks again for making this available. Definitely looking forward to it. |
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uratz Lab rat
Joined: 31 May 2009 Posts: 41 Location: Shanghai, China
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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| I saw this on Youtube and I learned how Matrix Molds is Made. Thanks! |
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aine8891 Lab rat
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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all i can say is thank you thank you thank you!!! im a final year student doin model makin for films n i want to do animatronics for my final project n dis is perfect! exactly wot i need to help me! im sooo buying the set!  |
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Monkeywiz Lab rat

Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Birmingham, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: Re: My ANIMATRONIC PROJECT |
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First post here, just wanted to say what a great resource this post is (and the whole site), I'll be going through it again in more detail (after work ) so if I ever manage to finish a sculpt to a high enough degree I'll have an idea where to start if I want to make it 'live' |
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